Cold War Remnant: Cancer for Baby Boomers

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Even with a half-century's hindsight, the U.S. government's willingness to risk the health of the nation's children seems somewhere between unfathomable and unconscionable.

Between 1951 and 1962, the Atomic Energy Commission detonated more than 100 nuclear bombs in the atmosphere over its Nevada Test Site, just 65 miles from Las Vegas. The radioactive fallout menaced not only the ranchers and the miners unlucky enough to live in that remote area of southern Nevada, but -- as a new study unveiled Tuesday demonstrated -- untold millions of unsuspecting Americans as well.

The winds carried Strontium-90, Iodine-129 and other lethal particles across a broad swath of the country. Infants who were bottle-fed, which was then considered the modern approach, were particularly vulnerable to the Strontium-90 that ended up in cows' milk.

In 1961, as John Kennedy was poised to resume atmospheric testing after a two-year moratorium, he met with White House science adviser Jerome Wiesner in the Oval Office one rainy day. The president wondered how fallout reached the earth. Wiesner explained that it was washed out of the clouds by rain. "You mean," Kennedy asked, "it's in the rain out there?" As Wiesner tells it, the president then "looked out the window, looked very sad and didn't say a word for several minutes." Nonetheless JFK, fearful that the Soviet Union might score a nuclear breakthrough, authorized a new round of above-ground testing before negotiating the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1963.

With Nov. 9, 2009 marking the 20th anniversary of the breaching of the Berlin Wall, Cold War retrospectives are again in season. But the grim legacy of nuclear testing is apt to be lost amid the memories of Josef Stalin, Nikita Khrushchev, the Berlin airlift, the Cuban Missile Crisis and Ronald Reagan's famed exhortation at the Brandenburg Gate. The mushroom clouds over the Nevada desert seem so long ago, so devoid of any real-world consequences.

But a study released Tuesday documents the enhanced cancer risk that Baby Boomers face because of these long-ago atmospheric tests. Epidemiologist Joseph Mangano analyzed the lingering radiation in infant teeth (donated long ago by the parents of baby boys born in the St. Louis area between 1959 and 1961) and compared the results to contemporary cancer data from the subjects. "What we found out was shocking," Mangano said. "Persons who had died of cancer had more than double the Strontium-90 in their (baby) teeth than did healthy persons." The original variance in Strontium-90 levels among individuals, he explained, was caused by seemingly small factors such as how much milk expectant mothers drank, diet and the source of the municipal water supply.

So where did these teeth come from? In the late 1950s, researchers at Washington University in St. Louis collected teeth from about 300,000 children and chemically analyzed them to demonstrate the prevalence of nuclear fallout. Even though it contributed to public support for the Test Ban Treaty, the Washington University study had been all but forgotten. But in 2001 a biology professor at the university discovered 85,000 left-over teeth in tiny manila envelopes that had never been used in this Cold War research.

The 53-year-old Mangano, the executive director of the small anti-nuclear Radiation and Public Health Project, saw the potential to use these teeth to conduct a longitudinal study measuring the life-long effects from atmospheric testing. For reasons of simplicity and consistency, he initially limited himself to boys born during a two-year moratorium in testing (so only lingering fallout was measured) who had not been breast-fed. "This is the pay dirt right here," he said excitedly Tuesday. "All the 50 years of collecting teeth, discussing bombs tests and all, this is the payoff. The difference is statistically significant." Mangano's paper, which is slated to posted Wednesday on his organization's Web site, has been submitted to an academic journal where it will be subjected to peer review.

Accompanied by model and anti-nuclear activist Christie Brinkley, Mangano had planned to unveil his study at a Washington press conference in the Rayburn House Office Building. There was only one small public relations problem: I was the only reporter who showed up. So in between discussing cancer and Strontium-90, I found myself in the midst of a where-did-we-go-wrong therapy session featuring an earnest epidemiologist and an articulate and committed spokesmodel, whose bitter divorce has been tabloid fodder for weeks. "We'll have to do something celebrity heavy in Manhattan," Brinkley declared. "That's the only way to get media these days."

Mangano and Brinkley view this research as a cautionary tale about the dangers of nuclear power. What fascinates me, however, is that 50 years ago, the angry scientists and the ban-the-bomb protesters were right – nuclear testing was dangerous for children and other living things. "Maybe at the beginning of bomb testing, people weren't sure how much this would spread across the globe," Mangano said. "But by the mid-1950s, after dozens of bombs had been tested, they noticed the radiation levels going up and up in the milk and the water. They knew that this was trouble."

American history is littered with examples of the government and powerful corporations callously jeopardizing the health and even the lives of the poor, the downtrodden and racial and ethnic minorities. But nuclear testing illustrates a much different lesson: we all share the same Earth. The rain that carried the radiation fell on the progeny of politicians and generals as well as the children of farm laborers and ditch-diggers. There was as much Strontium-90 in the milk fed to infants in wealthy suburbs as in the milk on sale in bodegas across the street from housing projects.

At the height of the late 1950s battle over atmospheric testing, super-hawk physicist Edward Teller scoffed at complaints that nuclear fallout was a danger worth contemplating. As Teller wrote, "The living organism is so complicated and the intertwining of cause and effect is so intricate that we may never know the biological effect of so small a cause as worldwide radiation." Radiation was never a "small" factor. And if Mangano's new study survives academic scrutiny, we may finally begin to understand the biological effects of those mushroom clouds over the Nevada desert.

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From george

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Opinion: Leonard Pitts Jr.: Despite ACORN story, Fox reporting is regularly inaccurate and unfair

By Leonard Pitts Jr.

Miami Herald

Posted: 10/04/2009 12:00:00 AM PDT

Perhaps you are familiar with an old saying: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I've found that maxim valuable as I wade through the recent hand-wringing and recrimination among journalists and their critics over the fact that most mainstream media were slow to pick up on the story of corruption at ACORN.

New York Times ombudsman Clark Hoyt (a former colleague) and Andrew Alexander, his counterpart at the Washington Post, are among those who have asked whether that laggard performance reflects an unfortunate deafness to conservative media. As one of my readers put it, "There is a lot wrong with ACORN, and Fox was the only channel talking about it."
I might join this pity party if I thought Fox a credible news source. I do not. Consider just a few of the network's and its hosts' recent lowlights:
June 3: In a column Bill O'Reilly says he never called murdered abortion doctor George Tiller "a baby killer."
This is wrong. PolitiFact.com has documented 24 instances just since 2005 of O'Reilly referring to the doctor as "Tiller the baby killer."
June 10: Glenn Beck asks, "Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it."
This is incorrect. Canada has it, as do 32 other nations.
June 18: Sean Hannity says that under the Cash for Clunkers program, "all we've got to do is "... go to a local junkyard, all you've got to do

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is tow it to your house. And you're going to get $4,500."

This is false. The program requires the car to be drivable and to have been registered for at least a year.
July 22: Beck says the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population."
This is untrue. The claim is based on a textbook John Holdren co-authored in 1977 that analyzed and "rejected" such coercive means of birth control.
July 31: Kimberly Guilfoyle claims the government will get total access in perpetuity to the computer of any participant in the Cash for Clunkers program who signs up at the government Web site, cars.gov.
This is inaccurate. FactCheck.org. reports this claim is based on a security notice required of "car dealers" who access a secure area of the Web site.
Every news organization from CNN to CBS to the Miami Herald to the L.A. Times gets it wrong on occasion, and every single report risks reflecting the biases — political, racial, religious, class, educational, geographical, generational — of the reporter.
But Fox is in a class by itself. In its epidemic inaccuracy, its ongoing disregard for basic journalistic standards of fairness, its demagogic appeals and its blatantly ideological promotions it is, indeed, unique — a news source in name only.
Yet because this network that cries wolf, this network of birthers, terrorist fist bumps and tea party promotions, got it right for a change, mainstream media should wear sackcloth and ashes for their failure to take it seriously? No.
What missing the ACORN story suggests is a need for mainstream reporters to develop more sources among conservative activists and bloggers. But Fox forfeited any expectation of being taken seriously by serious people when it made itself an echo chamber less concerned with reporting news than with affirming the ideological biases of its viewers.
When faced with a broken clock, after all, the person who wants to know the time has two options: Try to guess when the reading is right "...
Or get another clock.

LEONARD PITTS JR. is a columnist for the Miami Herald.

From george

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
  - Abraham Lincoln

Bill Maher

I think Bill Maher was disappointed when no one laughed Friday). 

 

I think it’s because it’s the best thing he has ever written, and like the Gettysburg Address, it was just too good to respond

 

September 26, 2009, Bill Maher, Real Time, HBO-New Rules:

“….And finally, New Rule: If American can't get off its back and get something done, it must lose the bald eagle as our symbol and replace it with the YouTube video of the puppy that can't get up. [YouTube video of puppy that can't get up shown] It's delightful. As long as we're pathetic, we might as well act like it's cute.

And I'm sorry, but, you know what? We are pathetic, inert and lethargic, unable to end bad things like wars, farm subsidies, our oil addiction; 60,000 troops are still in Germany; the drug war, useless weapons programs. And unable to initiate anything good.

And even when we do address a problem, the plan is always half-assed. It can never start until years later. Like the climate change bill in Congress now. It mandates a whopping 17% cut in the greenhouse gases that are killing us, by 2020. Who's in charge of this program? FEMA?

No, really, fellows, don't rush. Only the whole western half of the United States has been on fire for a month. I know, let's get to Mexicans using the hospital first.

We might pass new mileage standards, but even if we do, they wouldn't start until 2016. In that year, our cars of the future will glide along while achieving a breathtaking 35 miles per gallon. My goodness, is that even humanly possible? You socialist dreamer you!

"What do we want?!" "A small improvement!" "When do we want it?!" "2016!"

Come on! You know, when it's something for us personally, like a laxative, it has to start working NOW! My TV remote has a button on it now called "On Demand." "You get your ass on my TV screen right now SpongeBob and make me laugh! NOW!"

But, with the big important things, we're that puppy. The president has said about healthcare, "If we were starting from scratch, then a single-payer system would probably make sense." So let's start from scratch.

Instead we have a crappy, lobbyist-written "bl*wjob to corporate America" bill, and even if that passes, it doesn't kick in until 2013! During which time, close to 200,000 people will die because they're not covered and 3,000,000 will go bankrupt from hospital bills.

You know, I have a pretty good idea of the Republican plan for the next three years: don't let Obama do anything. What kills me is, apparently that's the Democrats' plan, too.

You know, we weren't always like this. In 1965, Johnson signed Medicare into law. Eleven months later, seniors were receiving benefits. In World War II, FDR converted car companies to making tanks and planes virtually overnight. In one eight-year period, America went from JFK's ridiculous dream of landing a man on the moon...to landing a man on the moon.

This generation has had eight years just to build something at Ground Zero: an office building, a museum, a Pinkberry, I don't care anymore!

America: Home of the Freedom Pit. Which, ironically, is spitting distance from Wall Street, where they knock down buildings a different way: through foreclosure. And that's the ultimate sign of our lethargy. Millions thrown out of their homes, tossed out of work, lost their life savings, and they just take it.

Thirty percent interest on credit cards? Are you kidding me? It's a good thing for the banks the Supreme Court legalized sodomy.

You know, I still like the president. I can't help but like the president. He's my favorite TV character. And I root for him like I root for Jon Cryer to get laid.

But, what happened to change? And when did the fierce urgency of "Now" become, "Your call is important to us, please continue to hold"?

September 26, 2009, Bill Maher, Real Time, HBO-New Rules

 

From george

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
  - Abraham Lincoln

 

FW: Age of Stupid

Take a look at http://www.ageofstupid.net/

 

 

 

From: George Martin
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:53 PM
To: 'Sarah Martin'
Subject: RE: Age of Stupid

 

I thought it was great, and the people who did it are great, because they pulled it off.  Faye and Rick went too and wanted to thank you for alerting us to it.  Faye’s comment was “that woman has real balls!” 

 

I think it’s amazing they pulled it off, and I was thinking about it, and maybe technology is really going to help us.  I bet it just doesn’t cost that much to rent an HD  transponder  from dishnetwork for 3 hours, which gets you most of this hemisphere. 

 

Did you see their faceplate thingy?  I became a fan. 

 

So, I think this country is as stupid as it gets in the age of stupid, that’s the problem.  If B.O.  goes for Copenhagen, then that may be it for him.  But that’s okay, I just don’t know if he will do it. 

 

Here’s a comment about it from the whitehouse faceplate page from someone: “ I saw "The Age of Stupid" in the theatre last night and I am ready to do what is needed to get the heat turned down in the US. If we don't get serious about redesigning our energy use NOW, it will not be possible later. The window is extremely small. I hope President Obama understands the urgency and moves our country, the biggest per capita contributor to global warming, to a sustainable place. “

6:32am

 

So, it is working.  But the power of chevron and their brothers is so huge.  They own all the media with their BS about how they are studying algae every fifteen minutes, on every channel, all day and all night.  George Orwell!!!  Even the newshour didn’t say a word yesterday about climate and the UN, only Iran and Afghanistan.  I would bet the oiligarchy’s combined investment on good stuff is .001% of their revenues, while they continue to wreck havoc locally and globally.  So that’s the danger. 

 

That was a really really good event they pulled off. 

 

Thanks again, I didn’t have a clue. 

 

Over,

 

Bro

 

 

We are Mental:

Death Row gets a $356 million re-model:

http://news.lavenderliberal.com/2009/07/30/people-are-going-to-die-now-schwarzenegger-slashes-aids-medi-cal-children-senior-care-funding-and-builds-a-new-death-row/

While colleges are cut to the bone, and people can't get in--De Anza Community College can't accommodate 8438 students, on 9-21-2009:

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_13389554?source=most_viewed

Like they say, follow the money??

Re.         Meg Whitman on Environmental Regulation, Thursday September 17

                & Thomas Friedman, Applied Builds Solar Overseas

 

It’s too bad Meg Whitman didn’t read Tom Friedman’s column before she wrote hers.  Of course I’m making the assumption that she is not a pure dogmatist, even though a lot of her column did sound like the old republican cry “if we just leave business alone, the market will fix everything”. 

 

Whether she is a purveyor of that dogma or not, the stark contrast between these two columns was remarkable.  She argued that because of onerous environmental regulation, jobs were being lost.  Tom Friedman reported on his visit to Applied Materials, the worlds’ largest supplier of semiconductor equipment. 

 

Applied Materials has recently sold equipment for 14 new solar panel factories, none in the U.S. 

 

I think it’s time to move on from the old, worn out ‘small government’ chant.  Government is supposed to be our collective representative of the will of the people, and those solar factories providing jobs and cutting Co2 in all those other countries are there because their citizens made choices.  That’s not government regulation stifling jobs, it’s just smart decision making.

 

George Martin

 

 

From george

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
  - Abraham Lincoln

 

Quote of the Year:

 

“The new plaza (the now pedestrian only Broadway/Times Square), in the past few months has been a hot, smelly enclosure, filled with people sitting under patio umbrellas comparing their cell-phone screens, which is what humans do instead of picking ticks out of one another’s fur.”

 

From Lauren Collins, The New Yorker,  THE TALK OF THE TOWN,                September 14, 2009

 

 

 

FW: Don't Let rehetoric cloud scientific evidence on BPA-

From: George [mailto:gmorgjr@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:51 AM
To: 'letters@mercurynews.com'
Subject: Don't Let rehetoric cloud scientific evidence on BPA-

Yes on SB797

Re: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_13301791?nclick_check=1

I appreciated Mr. Shestek’s thoughtful and researched response to the pending legislation on bisphenol A-BPA (Merc News, Opinion, Sept. 10. I agree with his conclusion that the expert panels, and government watchdogs make a compelling case that California could be over-reacting to the risks posed by BPA. That is a very robust and substantial list of expert opinion cited in this article.

But I think there is another side to the scientific debate, which is that BPA mimics a very potent human hormone. Science does not yet know how potent, because, as Mr. Shestek points out, there is little hard cause and effect evidence to link illness or human and/or animal reaction specifically to BPA.

Well, back in the 50’s, the same thing could be said for the risks of above ground nuclear testing. The downwind deaths of livestock and high exposure rates were not a goal of those tests, but were certainly a result.

Likewise, in the 70’s and 80’s here in Silicon Valley, we had restrictions, but not the right ones, on the heavy metals and complex solvents that were released into the environment as we developed the semiconductor technology we all appreciate today.

Now today, we see transexed fish in areas near run off from urban water treatment plants, and we don’t know how these anomalies are happening, but BPA is a likely suspect. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090501384.html

So I think another very reasonable scientific argument , and a common sense one, is that as we continue to produce the large amounts of plastics we depend on, let’s avoid complicated molecules that resemble powerful human and animal hormones. This is the same logic that pharmaceutical companies must follow to introduce a new drug…they have to spend years proving there are no side effects, because, there is no evidence that this new compound is safe until proven otherwise. BPA is an unfortunate and risky choice for plastic compounding and processing. Let’s slow down on introducing more risks into the environment that we all live in. SB797 is a good start, and will help drive the market place to find less risky alternatives.

George Martin

RE: Never has been more obvious than now

Hey Sarah, I just watched 60 minutes last night, and it was the last bill of the 2000 congress that somehow slipped in the override of the states rights on“gaming laws” (literally gaming) that had made credit default swaps a felony crime.  This law over rode the states, and credit default swaps grew from almost nothing, to $62 trillion by 2008 (about 5 times the value of all real estate in the US.  And this is what crashed the financial system as these swaps were all based on mortgages, and as mortgages failed, the Lehman bros of the world ran out of money to pay up on these side bets.

 

So now, I can’t blame Bush for this.  Clinton signed this.  I think they knew not what they did, but Greenspan was really pushing for this “de-regulation” that had originally been outlawed in 1907 and was a felony!!!

 

Damn,

bro

 

 

From: Sarah Martin [mailto:NapaRose@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:47 PM
To: Sarah Martin
Subject: Re: Never has been more obvious than now

 

George, what an analysis! I am going to forward (bcc) it to some of my contacts to whom I forwarded the article. You go!
This is hot!

Your admiring Sis


On 8/28/09 11:59 AM, "George Martin" <gmorgjr@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Sarah,
 
This is great.  I think I might frame it.  It really summarized what has been percolating in my brain for years.   
 
I think all presidents run up against the fact that they only can do so much against this infrastructure, and if they go too far, they are gotten rid of one way or another.  
 
I think we have to look at 1 key metric, and that is the distribution of wealth.  I believe Clinton moved it in the right direction, and look at the 6+ years of un-relenting all out sophisticated assassination against him…and of course he made minor but healthy moves in the right direction and we all were doing pretty well because of it.
 
Obama has to figure out something he can actually do, but look at the machinery that has already been put in place against him in 8 months..
 
Jimmy Carter only got wise post-office
 
So, I’m reading this excellent series of books by Kim Robinson that starts with Red Mars   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Stanley_Robinson
 
I’m on the third and last of the three, bummer.  But he has a great skill at observing Earth from afar over the next 150 years.  In the book, there develops THE definitive history of the human race, written about 100 years from now.   In that history, they describe the evolution of government, and part of it goes like this:
 
“Monarchy, Feudalism then capitalism.  And capitalism = Feudalism + democracy”.  Well, that is how it has worked for me!  I’m a capitalist serf, waiting to see what the lords will allow me and my family to have and do.  And observing as they decide what is important to salvage as we devastate our living quarters.
 
I thought that is fantastically brilliant, it’s an equation doomed to fail, but does help shape a new future system of post capitalism, no private property, with sustainability between human and the worlds we live on the fundamental axiom of the “future” social contract.  There’s really no need for money under this.
 
Anyway, Larry Flynt Bad…haven’t heard from him in a long time..
 
Thanks,
 
Bro
 
 
 

Subject: FW: Never has been more obvious than now

FYI - From Huffingtom's post. I have been hearing/reading more and more about this subject lately. It seems there are more Americans than ever questioning what is going on. The next few lines are just a short summary of what many are starting to notice. The author knows a lot about exposing "obscenity". In this case, political-financial - Alberto

Common Sense

The American government -- which we once called our government -- has been taken over by Wall Street, the mega-corporations and the super-rich. They are the ones who decide our fate. It is this group of powerful elites, the people President Franklin D. Roosevelt called "economic royalists," who choose our elected officials -- indeed, our very form of government. Both Democrats and Republicans dance to the tune of their corporate masters. In America, corporations do not control the government. In America, corporations are the government.

This was never more obvious than with the Wall Street bailout, whereby the very corporations that caused the collapse of our economy were rewarded with taxpayer dollars. So arrogant, so smug were they that, without a moment's hesitation, they took our money -- yours and mine -- to pay their executives multimillion-dollar bonuses, something they continue doing to this very day. They have no shame. They don't care what you and I think about them. Henry Kissinger refers to us as "useless eaters."

But, you say, we have elected a candidate of change. To which I respond: Do these words of President Obama sound like change?

"A culture of irresponsibility took root, from Wall Street to Washington to Main Street."
There it is. Right there. We are Main Street. We must, according to our president, share the blame. He went on to say: "And a regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis -- the Great Depression -- was overwhelmed by the speed, scope and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy."

This is nonsense.

The reason Wall Street was able to game the system the way it did -- knowing that they would become rich at the expense of the American people (oh, yes, they most certainly knew that) -- was because the financial elite had bribed our legislators to roll back the protections enacted after the Stock Market Crash of 1929.

Congress gutted the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial lending banks from investment banks, and passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which allowed for self-regulation with no oversight. The Securities and Exchange Commission subsequently revised its rules to allow for even less oversight -- and we've all seen how well that worked out. To date, no serious legislation has been offered by the Obama administration to correct these problems.

Instead, Obama wants to increase the oversight power of the Federal Reserve. Never mind that it already had significant oversight power before our most recent economic meltdown, yet failed to take action. Never mind that the Fed is not a government agency but a cartel of private bankers that cannot be held accountable by Washington. Whatever the Fed does with these supposed new oversight powers will be behind closed doors.

Obama's failure to act sends one message loud and clear: He cannot stand up to the powerful Wall Street interests that supplied the bulk of his campaign money for the 2008 election. Nor, for that matter, can Congress, for much the same reason.

Consider what multibillionaire banker David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs:
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

Read Rockefeller's words again. He actually admits to working against the "best interests of the United States."

Need more? Here's what Rockefeller said in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." They're gaming us. Our country has been stolen from us.

Journalist Matt Taibbi, writing in Rolling Stone, notes that esteemed economist John Kenneth Galbraith laid the 1929 crash at the feet of banking giant Goldman Sachs. Taibbi goes on to say that Goldman Sachs has been behind every other economic downturn as well, including the most recent one. As if that wasn't enough, Goldman Sachs even had a hand in pushing gas prices up to $4 a gallon.

The problem with bankers is longstanding. Here's what one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, had to say about them:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered."

We all know that the first American Revolution officially began in 1776, with the Declaration of Independence. Less well known is that the single strongest motivating factor for revolution was the colonists' attempt to free themselves from the Bank of England. But how many of you know about the second revolution, referred to by historians as Shays' Rebellion? It took place in 1786-87, and once again the banks were the cause. This time they were putting the screws to America's farmers.

Daniel Shays was a farmer in western Massachusetts. Like many other farmers of the day, he was being driven into bankruptcy by the banks' predatory lending practices. (Sound familiar?) Rallying other farmers to his side, Shays led his rebels in an attack on the courts and the local armory. The rebellion itself failed, but a message had been sent: The bankers (and the politicians who supported them) ultimately backed off. As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Perhaps it's time to consider that option once again.

I'm calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful.

Let's set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn't effective -- if the politicians ignore us -- we do it again. And again. And again.

The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves.

Larry Flynt

Publisher of Hustler magazine and free speech advocate
Posted: August 20, 2009 08:15 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html?www.GoldmanSachs666.com <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html?www.GoldmanSachs666.com>

RE: Never has been more obvious than now

Sarah,

This is great. I think I might frame it. It really summarized what has been percolating in my brain for years.

I think all presidents run up against the fact that they only can do so much against this infrastructure, and if they go too far, they are gotten rid of one way or another.

I think we have to look at 1 key metric, and that is the distribution of wealth. I believe Clinton moved it in the right direction, and look at the 6+ years of un-relenting all out sophisticated assassination against him…and of course he made minor but healthy moves in the right direction and we all were doing pretty well because of it.

Obama has to figure out something he can actually do, but look at the machinery that has already been put in place against him in 8 months..

Jimmy Carter only got wise post-office

So, I’m reading this excellent series of books by Kim Robinson that starts with Red Mars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Stanley_Robinson

I’m on the third and last of the three, bummer. But he has a great skill at observing Earth from afar over the next 150 years. In the book, there develops THE definitive history of the human race, written about 100 years from now. In that history, they describe the evolution of government, and part of it goes like this:

“Monarchy, Feudalism then capitalism. And capitalism = Feudalism + democracy”. Well, that is how it has worked for me! I’m a capitalist serf, waiting to see what the lords will allow me and my family to have and do. And observing as they decide what is important to salvage as we devastate our living quarters.

I thought that is fantastically brilliant, it’s an equation doomed to fail, but does help shape a new future system of post capitalism, no private property, with sustainability between human and the worlds we live on the fundamental axiom of the “future” social contract. There’s really no need for money under this.

Anyway, Larry Flynt Bad…haven’t heard from him in a long time..

Thanks,

Bro

Subject: FW: Never has been more obvious than now

FYI - From Huffingtom's post. I have been hearing/reading more and more about this subject lately. It seems there are more Americans than ever questioning what is going on. The next few lines are just a short summary of what many are starting to notice. The author knows a lot about exposing "obscenity". In this case, political-financial - Alberto

Common Sense

The American government -- which we once called our government -- has been taken over by Wall Street, the mega-corporations and the super-rich. They are the ones who decide our fate. It is this group of powerful elites, the people President Franklin D. Roosevelt called "economic royalists," who choose our elected officials -- indeed, our very form of government. Both Democrats and Republicans dance to the tune of their corporate masters. In America, corporations do not control the government. In America, corporations are the government.

This was never more obvious than with the Wall Street bailout, whereby the very corporations that caused the collapse of our economy were rewarded with taxpayer dollars. So arrogant, so smug were they that, without a moment's hesitation, they took our money -- yours and mine -- to pay their executives multimillion-dollar bonuses, something they continue doing to this very day. They have no shame. They don't care what you and I think about them. Henry Kissinger refers to us as "useless eaters."

But, you say, we have elected a candidate of change. To which I respond: Do these words of President Obama sound like change?

"A culture of irresponsibility took root, from Wall Street to Washington to Main Street."
There it is. Right there. We are Main Street. We must, according to our president, share the blame. He went on to say: "And a regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis -- the Great Depression -- was overwhelmed by the speed, scope and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy."

This is nonsense.

The reason Wall Street was able to game the system the way it did -- knowing that they would become rich at the expense of the American people (oh, yes, they most certainly knew that) -- was because the financial elite had bribed our legislators to roll back the protections enacted after the Stock Market Crash of 1929.

Congress gutted the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial lending banks from investment banks, and passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which allowed for self-regulation with no oversight. The Securities and Exchange Commission subsequently revised its rules to allow for even less oversight -- and we've all seen how well that worked out. To date, no serious legislation has been offered by the Obama administration to correct these problems.

Instead, Obama wants to increase the oversight power of the Federal Reserve. Never mind that it already had significant oversight power before our most recent economic meltdown, yet failed to take action. Never mind that the Fed is not a government agency but a cartel of private bankers that cannot be held accountable by Washington. Whatever the Fed does with these supposed new oversight powers will be behind closed doors.

Obama's failure to act sends one message loud and clear: He cannot stand up to the powerful Wall Street interests that supplied the bulk of his campaign money for the 2008 election. Nor, for that matter, can Congress, for much the same reason.

Consider what multibillionaire banker David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs:
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

Read Rockefeller's words again. He actually admits to working against the "best interests of the United States."

Need more? Here's what Rockefeller said in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." They're gaming us. Our country has been stolen from us.

Journalist Matt Taibbi, writing in Rolling Stone, notes that esteemed economist John Kenneth Galbraith laid the 1929 crash at the feet of banking giant Goldman Sachs. Taibbi goes on to say that Goldman Sachs has been behind every other economic downturn as well, including the most recent one. As if that wasn't enough, Goldman Sachs even had a hand in pushing gas prices up to $4 a gallon.

The problem with bankers is longstanding. Here's what one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, had to say about them:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered."

We all know that the first American Revolution officially began in 1776, with the Declaration of Independence. Less well known is that the single strongest motivating factor for revolution was the colonists' attempt to free themselves from the Bank of England. But how many of you know about the second revolution, referred to by historians as Shays' Rebellion? It took place in 1786-87, and once again the banks were the cause. This time they were putting the screws to America's farmers.

Daniel Shays was a farmer in western Massachusetts. Like many other farmers of the day, he was being driven into bankruptcy by the banks' predatory lending practices. (Sound familiar?) Rallying other farmers to his side, Shays led his rebels in an attack on the courts and the local armory. The rebellion itself failed, but a message had been sent: The bankers (and the politicians who supported them) ultimately backed off. As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Perhaps it's time to consider that option once again.

I'm calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful.

Let's set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn't effective -- if the politicians ignore us -- we do it again. And again. And again.

The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves.

Larry Flynt

Publisher of Hustler magazine and free speech advocate
Posted: August 20, 2009 08:15 PM

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Please read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/opinion/19dowd.html

George Martin, Comments on the Commentary:
July 19, 2009

Response to Maureen Dowds' Column, July 19, 2009

This is a great column, that broadly sums up for me what Ms. Dowd kindly calls hypocrisy, but we, the electorate have to conclude is the incurable insanity and total dysfunction of our Washington elected officials. Not only to they thrive only on chimerical sound bytes, that consistently make no sense, show no reason, conservative or liberal, no legitimate debate. A real conservative would applaud the district court ruling on a complex law that ruled on precedent and established law, but the current crop of both parties just can't seem to do anything that makes sense, shows consistency, or principal. However, the legislation being created is consistent, in representing the voice of the commercial power brokers who surround our capital like fungi. All of this supported by cable news pundits who just regurgitate the official sound bytes with unparalleled vim, vigor, and allegiance to this weeks official party line.

 

It certainly is leaving us a country that has lost the ability to imagine common sense, carry on a reasonable discussion, or elect repesentatives that can actually do something to address the huge crisis' we are drowing in, and where the rights of the many are being buried by the desires of the few, and where if you tried to find away to fix this believing "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government", you would undoubtedly be put on the No-Fly list.

Well, how could we do this today, when the clowns that have these responsibilities now, and the media machinery that is supposed to provide information to the electorate just seems unable to do that job of being constructive in securing our rights to solve our huge problems and put judges in place that can make us confident that we do have three branches of government that actually work like they are supposed too? Supposed too, meaning representing the rights and will of the people to fix education, obesity, wars, growing poverty, and stop our mad march to becoming a poor, third rate debtor nation?

I propose that we hold a hearing on capital hill, with Maureen Dowd as the sole investigator and interrogator justice committee of the recent Sotomeyer hearings! And we should carry on this process for all of what passes for "deliberations" going forward! How can we restore these senate and house's responsibility to reason and honesty? Thanks Maureen for saying what is driving so many of us nuts out here!

 

 

From george

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
  - Abraham Lincoln

 

Document2

That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government

 

RE: Why the New iPhone Sucks

Sarah,

I'm all for this, but, I think this kinda reeks of "I want my toys" . there are really well understood ways to crack the Iphone and put them on T-Mobile, or whatever—guys at work do it all the time and it works great apparently. I didn't do it because I still have some months left on my apple care, like 7, and so I don't want to lose that total protection. Plus, I get such a good deal with the family plan…everyone is on our plan, and it's only $6000/week!!!

So far, I think the only thing ATT has hijacked is the tethering technology, where you can use Bluetooth or Wi-Fi from your laptop to connect to the 3G network through the phone. They still want to sell their $50.00 /month 3G WAN packages. Which absolutely sucks!!

But, they are supposed to get over that soon. So I'm all for getting them to lower their rates, they suck at $40.00/month to run the Iphone internet services. But I don't know who is doing any better. All the companies should be busted for price collusion, and monopolizing the our air waves.

But, I think google is leading the charge to make the old analog airwaves available for the citizens that own them, and their android operating system is based on Linux. But the Palm Pre isn't doing too well compared to the Iphone. And the Iphone is the gadget of the millennium so far, and they built a brilliant operating system that spawns all the billions of great apps that you can put on the thing..

So I don't know if this guy is the right spokesman. What we need to do is keep the freed up air waves from the DTV transition out of the hands of those bastard phones companies. But, then we get to the problem that is yet to be solved, which is how do we get the people back in charge of their government?

I'm posting this to my blog…

Becky, how to I get the entire universe to read my blog?

Bro

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APATHY

Rick said he was too apathetic to look "it" up. My response was

 

Yeah, my apathy has overwhelmed my enuii, leaving my lethargy a dim dim memory.

 

 

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Test this a posting from my iPhone !!

The End of the Age of Mindless Consumerism

The End of the Consumer Age

George Martin

December 5, 2008

So, your donation was successful in Georgia.

i don't disagree with you about a divided executive and leg. branch. the big problem has been the the republicans in the senate have voted as a block and stopped more legislation more in the last two years, than all of the rest of modern history.

this is crap. there needs to be "DELIBERATION" not blind party loyalty.

People diss Pelosi all the time for doing nothing. but they have sent over a lot of good legislation to the senate, passed bi-partison in the house, where it has all died.

so, I'm thinking Barrack will succeed in getting enough republicans to be effective, LORD willing (I know she is looking out for someone). we need a government that does smart things.

if you notice, i always return to the same themes, no left or right, just dumb and smart. Deliberation, the way John Adams designed the government to work.

i really like that republican guy on the senate i can't remember his name, who just says no to the Auto companies. his arguments are sound, and the car companies aren't. his name Slayer, or something like that. and I like the governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford. he has great reasons why continuing to bail everything out just ends up in the long run making us poorer, by further weakening of the dollar.

Instead of running all those bullshit commercials, why doesn't chevron and Exxon bail out Detroit? they and haliburton, and blackwater have all our money anyway?

and someday, you have to get straightened out about the unions. Yeah, they blew it starting in the 70's, but without them in the early years we would never have built a middle class. the idea of "united we stand, divided we fall" is true. but they did really blow it and piss off everyone back in the fat years.

and it's the middle class which is the engine of the economy. too bad the "trickle down" people have won, and look at the results.

i really think we are entering the end of the age of consumerism. I think the age of everyone in my block owning a honda lawnmower, a leaf blower, and all this other frivolous crap is over. the world just can't sustain nor has the resource to keep making all the crap the economy has depended on for "good holiday sales" . we are going to go into an austere time, where people buy food, clothes, and things they really need. I don't think the "old economy" which really died this year will ever come back. the planet just cannot sustain the EU, USA, India, China, and all the developing world driving SUV's and buying honda lawnmowers. the stuff is no longer available.

that's really why i started this company, and you will see it become a pioneer in the 21st century grid.

okay, that's my rant for today!

George

FECES CRISIS STRIKES AMERICA

March 5, 2006

The spreading feces crisis in America

THE CRISIS OF CRAP IN NORTH AMERICA, IT'S SPREADING RAPIDILY.

ACTION MUST BE TAKEN

The state of the Culture from the toilette perspective-America's conflictions as seen from the toilet bowl!

Today's toilet says it all.

Natural Resources:

As we strive ever so weakly to try and address the obvious exhausting of resources this Earth has provided us, the toilet has been redesigned to flush with less water.

While on the surface, this is a good thing, the truth is, however, that it requires that small loads be the targets of those flushes.

To you investors out there, consider this a recommendation to increase your holdings in household product companies that focus on emergency toilete clearing products and devices. More specific companies will be listed at the end for those paid subscribers to this authors stock report.¹

WHATS WRONG WITH TODAY'S TOILETS?

The dilemma: while flushing power is reduced, a good thing, the size of the loads deposited by the average American are increasing at an alarming rate².

As people let fly with increasingly large turds, and massively increasing amounts of wiping paper are required to clean todays' massive asses, four events are happening with alarming frequency:

1. Forrest Products:

   More rainforest products are being denuded by mass production to produce evermore ass wipe; this is increasing the planet's inability to process carbon dioxide.

2. Water Usage:

   More and more toilets have reduced flushing capabilities; in order to rid ones bathroom of noxious collections of turds, stuck in their toilets, there is actually far more good, fresh, potable water being flushed into the sewer in usually vain attempts to clear the overwhelmed plumbing fixtures-It's like light cigarettes, those fools who smoke them are actually sucking in more toxins than a straight normal cigarette..
   

3. Commercial Manufacturing Eco Load:

   Since the first line of defence for crap clearing remains the plumbers helper, The demands for these products is increasing dramatically. However, this again presents a dilemma for a culture that must reduce its' individual eco burden. These are listed here:

1. Plumbers helpers lifecycles have dramatically reduced from a typical twenty years, to 3 months. This results in three environmental loading issues:

3.1.1: The energy used and pollution caused by mass production of these items in Asia is filling local environments with more volitle, toxic chemicals used in these short lived products,

3.1.2: Local rainforests and forrest health is being assaulted at even greater rates to supply the expotential demand for wooden and/or plastic handles

3.1.3: U.S. Landfills have an increasing burden of discarded short life time no biodegradible plastic broken plunger heads, handles, and wood wastes from the discarded handles.

4. Disease Etiology

   Since the ability of Americans to flush away their ever increasing volumes of fecal waste has been greatly diminished, the exposure to feces born disease in concomitantly increasing. Just imagine the amount of crusted feces under the finger nails of those wide ass people you see next to you in the internet cafe, typing away..
   
   This adds the additional eco burdens of:
   
   4.1 Family members being exposed more frequently to feces transmitted diseases
   4.2 Treatment for those diseases adds to the US eco burden in production, packaging, and excretion of treatment medicines and eco burden of treatment protocols³
   4.3 Productivity declines to due more missed days from work
   4.4 Organic increases in rates of fecal bourne disease from those stricken but continue to work anyway, exposing at higher rates their colleagues to fecal bourn disease.

The etiology stems from two unrelated factors: First, as one fights vigorously to clear a clogged toilet, the fecal bourne disease microbes are giving proportionally more probability of landing in a successful transfer situation. In other words, more crap particles can find their way onto tooth brushes, prescription bottles, children's hair and teeth, and pets.

And unrelated, but occurring under similar circumstances, as the american ass continues to expand to extra normal size, the ability to reach to appropriate areas around the anus and interior of the butt checks is greatly diminished, therefore exposing laundry workers and others to the severe fecal transmitted diseases such as Hepititus A, B, and even C, mono, and the other yet undefined diseases transmitted by this most successful transmission arrangement.

Recommended Corrective Actions:

The society for the reduction of fecal matter (SFTRFM) (a K street lobbying firm founded by Jack Abrahmoff) has issued several recommendations to reverse these disturbing trends. However, as always, it is the individual who can have the most impact, if they in-turd become the change they wish to see in the world.

I will summarize those recommendations here. However, if you would prefer to skip this section, please go to the closing remarks and the investment recommendations from this organizations portfolio committee.

SFTRFM Recommendations:

1. Introduce legislation mandating that toilette plungers have a minimum design lifetime of 1 year. This will reduce the eco load by a factor of 3, however this is far less than the technology of 10 years ago provided.

2. Reduce Ass acreage by 18%. This would allow the normal paper user the opportunity to clean better, using less resources, and would lower the probabilities of ancillary support people exposure the turd bourne disease found on shirt sleeves and under finger nails.
   

3. Develop flush assist technology. This could take the place of today's typical gravity feed type flush designs... It could include high pressure gas discharge toilettes, electric pumps, or backup high volume emergency water suppliers to clear out America's toilettes. All of these approaches would introduce new eco burdens, that would have to be carefully included into the design criteria for such solutions

4. Provide high volume public toilete facilities where those large people with challenging bowel movement circumstances could go, to use SUV size toilett facilities, and receive assistance as needed. To be effective, this approach would require control with data technologies similar to those so effectively deployed in the terror watch lists, in order to identify and enforce success.

In addtion, we believe that government regulations on the testing for low volume toilettes should be imposed. This would require using actual extreme case testing with human subjects, instead of the psuedo tests used by our toilette manufacturing industry today.

Please feel free to make comments or suggestions on this important topic here on this blog.

INVESTMENT ADVICE-As promised

We all now it's easy to point out weakness and problems facing our country today. But it is the belief of this organization that we must also provide a clear path to profit from today's crisis's. Therefore, we have prepared a targeted list of two categories of investments that we can all make in two areas; The first A. is to enjoy the profits from the inordinate volumes of supplies and technologies necessary to sustain the current in effective and dangerous methods used today to mitigate defective toilette flushing, and secondly, B: for those willing to bet on a future where solutions will be implemented, those companies and products that will solve the crap crisis in America today. Follow or click one or both of the links below is you are interested:

Investment A: Continue the Status Quo

Investment B: Bet on the Future Mitigations

Foot Notes:

1Crapper Stocks recommendations, MLI Investors Newsletter, March, 2006

2The size of feces, and the quantity of wiping materials has increased expotentially since 1960. source: the american plumbers association annual state of the sewer system report, 2002

3Centers for Disease Tracking, March, 2006